#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

int main(){
    int i =5;
    int j;
    j = (++i)+(++i) +(++i); //j=?
    cout << "j = " << j << endl;
    j=(i++)+(i++)+(i++); //j=?
    cout << "j = " << j << endl;

    return 0;
}
